I recently had the opportunity to have an enlightening e-mail conversation with Tomas Rahal, the owner of Mas Tapas Bar in Charlottesville, VA during which I was compared to those who assist arsonists and thieves, Nazis, and child molesters. Given the reputation of Mas Tapas Bar through my web site and the statements made by Tomas during our conversation, I thought the conversation would be of interest to my visitors.
This was the first email I received from Tomas Rahal, owner of Mas Tapas Bar.
From: tomas rahal (tomasr@mastapas.com)
Sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:45:48 -0600
To: 'Charlottesville-Dining.com'
Subject: Inappropriate Comments
after reading two recent comments on your "guide" i would like to say the following. before you post such ridiculous and libelous statements, anonymously, you should yourself perform some due diligence. it's not enough that the comments are false, misleading and completely without factual basis, but now they are personal towards both me and my staff with characterizations that can only be regarded as hostile and defamatory. what purpose does your "guide" serve when such attacks are allowed then repeated by you without as much as a fact check. a "guide" suggests expertise or even knowledge about a given subject not a proclivity for repeating false and libelous statements. after reading the comments of 6/13/06 i am really confused. after consuming "many tasty tapas" this person claims to have become dizzy "probably from the seafood". well, only if you are allergic can such a quick reaction occur according to our health department. secondly, after notifying me personally, i advised the person to contact the health dept. to have their expertise and resources brought to bear. as it turns out the health dept. investigated and found no evidence of food poisoning. nor did the vomiter seek medical attention. "as it turns out", nor did anyone else complain that evening, not one, about becoming ill or feeling "dizzy and wobbly". posting a comment and lie such as this is bad enough and we have come to expect it from your "unbiased guide". but to include a warning to other diners to beware is incredibly irresponsible. but wait there's more. on 5/21/06 another post reads, like the one of 6/13/06 in that the food was good, the drinks were good but the staff is comprised of "degenerates" and even though mas is a "descent (sic)restaurant" it's the result of a mediocre chef and plan derived from surfing the web. if this bitter and disturbed person wants to flaunt their lack of restaurant knowledge, displaying their ignorance online is their business. why should mas tapas bear the brunt of your total lack of fairness, professionalism and decency. my staff works harder than any i have worked with and are constantly receiving training on wines, foods, and service. if one ever has a problem they need only ask for me, tomas, or my assistant, eliza, and we are more than happy to remedy their situation. the hostility and animus you continue to pour out on mas belies the many positive and growing demand for our foods, wines, and services. yes we are unique, not an amalgam or hodgepodge of other restaurants but tapas are a universal food, and found in virtually every culture. maybe it's time for you to stop hiding behind your anonymous posts and unattributed sources and stand up for what you print. what are you afraid of? mas tapas stands up every single night and we're not going away. as for the nattering nabobs, they are welcome to contact me anytime at 434.979.0990 or email me at tomasr@mastapas.com to discuss their problems rahter than relying on your site to post their lies and insults.
I will say that the issue regarding the alleged food poisoning at Mas Tapas Bar has been dealt with following contact by the comment poster and verification of their IP address. But it becomes evident towards the middle of the e-mail that Tomas thinks I, personally, am writing these comments and including warnings about Mas Tapas Bar. He also seems to think that anyone who complains about Mas Tapas Bar on Charlottesville-Dining.com is "bitter and disturbed," has a "lack of restaurant knowledge," is "displaying their ignorance online," and is a "nattering nabob." Sounds like just the kind of guy you want to give your complaints to, no?
The fact that he thinks I'm hiding behind my own personal anonymous posts and unattributed sources or that I might be afraid of something with regards to my web site was a source of laughter.
It should be known that Tomas has contacted me in the past with similar complaints about negative comments about Mas Tapas Bar on my web site. Back then, he accused me of slander and a host of other things and I made it known to him then that I was not personally posting comments about Mas Tapas Bar; that users were the ones responsible for their own comments. Given that, I decided to set the record straight once again regarding who was posting comments to my web site about Mas Tapas Bar.
From: 'Fred Telegdy'
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 6:36 PM
To: tomasr@mastapas.com
Subject: Re: Inappropriate Comments
Clearly you have not grasped the concept that I do not post anything. The users of the web site post the comments. The Charlottesville-Dining Restaurant Guide is composed completely of user comments and ratings, so to claim that I have done anything other than provide a place for people to post those comments and ratings is ludicrous.
I, personally, have absolutely no experience with your restaurant. I couldn't tell you whether I like your food or not. I couldn't tell you whether I like your staff or not. I couldn't tell you a single thing about your restaurant.
However, I CAN tell you that you clearly don't understand what my web site and clearly don't take well to negative comments. You say you want people to discuss their "problems" with you. Have you considered that maybe they DID approach you with their problems and that their problems weren't resolved? I honestly couldn't tell you if they have done so, but given the way you attack me and my web site, as if I'm the one personally posting these comments and ratings, it wouldn't surprise me if they had and just didn't get the resolution they desired.
As for what I'm afraid of, it's nothing. Certainly not you, nor any other restaurant. You claim that I'm "hiding behind my anonymous posts and unattributed sources," yet you fail to realize that I've NEVER posted a SINGLE comment or rating to my own web site. I have the IP address logs to prove it. So, why don't you get your own facts straight before telling someone else to.
Fred.
_________________________
Fred Telegdy
Charlottesville-Dining
http://www.charlottesville-dining.com
Imagine my surprise when, in response to my e-mail about how Charlottesville-Dining.com works with regards to the Mas Tapas Bar listing, Tomas replies with an attack that not only questions my mental health, but also compares me to those who assist arsonists and thieves, Nazis, and child molesters. Yes, you read that right. The following e-mail has been bolded, by me, for highlighting.
From: tomas rahal <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Sent: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:53:18 -0400
To: 'Fred Telegdy'
Subject: RE: Inappropriate Comments
Taking no responsibility for those comments - I'm not surprised. Why so many disclaimers then? Why else but to avoid responsibility for what you claim are all unedited frank comments, unbiased and one would assume fair. Your ignorance of mas or any other subject is no surprise either considering the lack of interest you seem to have in your own site. Your fears or what you are afraid of is between you and whatever medical professional is servicing you now. Understanding your web site is not the issue. What's to understand? Any wacko can write anything they want and post it unattributed, anonymously as you once told me, to prevent retribution. You know and acknowledge that your web site can be used for bad purposes. Posting or allowing others to use your site for slanderous, defamatory remarks while claiming no resposibility for inappropriate comments shows you acknowledge these bad deeds, can edit or challenge them, but choose not to because, fred, like the man who sells the gasoline to the arsonist, or the handgun to the thief, you're a bottomfeeder who hopes to gain some notoriety from the controversy or ill-repute. Why not make clear from the beginning that you have no idea, nor do you care, if any of the statements are true or false rather than calling your site a guide, as if it had one iota of subjectivity or truth. I will continue to challenge the libelous content on your site, be assured others will too. Our processes for addressing grievances are certainly more effective than the "I'm not responsible" defense so much in vogue with nazis, child molesters, dining guide operators and other sickos. We are accountable. Talk about ludicrous. How about a little truth, quit hiding from everyone behind your web site - how about a newspaper article describing how you allow for lies and innuendos to smear innocent, hard-working people who would otherwise be totally unaware of your fearless presence.
Wow! I've done a lot of things in my young life, but I've never been compared to those who assist arsonists and thiefs, Nazis, and child molesters. How I, the owner/operator of a restaurant guide that allows for both positive and negative feedback of Mas Tapas Bar and other restaurants, could be compared to those people is beyond my comprehension. How the fact that I'm not intimidated by Tomas means I have some sort of mental illness is also beyond my comprehension.
After being upset by the e-mail for a little while (and who wouldn't be when they were just compared to those who assist arsonists and thiefs, Nazis, and child molesters), I chose a short response for Tomas.
From: 'Fred Telegdy'
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 01:56:13 PM
To: tomasr@mastapas.com
Subject: Re: Inappropriate Comments
Thank you for your email. It was a true pleasure to read and gives me wonderful insight into why people think you and your employees have an attitude problem.
Keep in touch!
_________________________
Fred Telegdy
Charlottesville-Dining
http://www.charlottesville-dining.com
Needless to say, I'll be keeping Mas Tapas Bar off my list of places to eat in Charlottesville.
I was dealing with the issue of the alleged food poisoning at Mas Tapas Bar with the person who posted the comment when I received a comment post for the Mas Tapas Bar restaurant. I have no way of knowing that the comment was posted by Tomas Rahal, owner of Mas Tapas Bar, but it would have to have been someone who knew a LOT about this entire situation. I'll just go ahead and assume it's him given that the writing style is EXTREMELY similar.
why is it that after a comment was found to be untrue, and the poster requested its removal it is still on the charlottesville-dining.com restaurant guide? because fred telegdy doesn't care, or even worse, can't verify whether comments are true or fabrications. what kind of guide purports to tell the truth whilst hosting such defamatory and libelous statements? what kind of site prints lies and fabrications under the guise of being an unbiased guide to dining out in charlottesville? what kind of host, who lives in stuarts draft, never visits the restaurants he slanders, and still purports to be informed about where the best restaurants are in charlottesville? ask fred telegdy, self-appointed, self-promoting, web-nazi and provocateur who fancies himself a web designer. after being the victim of his unbiased web hosting i cannot think of a person more unworthy of this community's support than fred telegdy, who disgraces the efforts of working people and small business owners just to make a few bucks. where's the shame fred? have you no decency?
It took me a while to stop laughing after reading this one. Here's a little point-by-point:
How is it that Tomas Rahal, owner of Mas Tapas Bar, knew "the poster requested [the comment's] removal" if he wasn't somehow involved in requesting the removal? There was certainly nothing on my site, nor anywhere else, regarding my dealing with the issue at the time the above comment was submitted. Though I have absolutely no proof, based on the way he's trying to strongarm me, it wouldn't surprise me if he did the same thing to the person who posted the food poisoning comment to the Mas Tapas Bar listing.
I've never claimed Charlottesville-Dining.com is the absolute truth regarding Charlottesville restaurants or even Mas Tapas Bar. It is simply a place for people to post their own ratings and comments and, like all other opinions offered in every other arena, it is up to the end user to determine what they want to do as a result of reading that information. Apparently, if Tomas had his way, the guide would allow nothing but positive comments for Mas Tapas Bar and other restaurants and I'm a firm believer that a guide like that serves no purpose.
Yes, I live in Stuarts Draft. Shoot me. It turns out that buying a house in Charlottesville costs a LOT of money; money I don't really have at my disposal. But I have to congratulate Tomas for doing the minimal amount of research required to find out that I live in Stuarts Draft. See, Tomas, I have nothing to hide, just like I said.
So, I live in Stuarts Draft and because I still love the city of Charlottesville so much, I still work in Charlottesville and make the 45-minute commute each way to do my job. I also spend money at plenty of restaurants in Charlottesville, both for lunch and for the occasional dinner or night out with friends. I just choose not to do so at Mas Tapas Bar, especially now. My dedication to Charlottesville and the site should be evident in the fact that I still maintain it DESPITE moving to Stuarts Draft. I assure you that a Stuarts Draft Dining Guide would be MUCH easier to maintain.
"Self-appointed, self-promoting, web-nazi and provocateur who fancies himself a web designer?" That's a new one. I would love for Tomas to show me the one place where I mention my name anywhere on my site. If it's pointed out to me, I promise I'll remove it immediately; no questions asked. I do cross-link to my other web sites, as I do on those other web sites, in case someone finds them interesting. I'm sure if Tomas owned another restaurant in town, he'd also cross-advertise it at Mas Tapas Bar. And what's with the facination with Nazis again? As for fancying myself a web designer, I suppose a decade of experience of doing it as a job will tend to make a person feel that way.
Disgracing the efforts of working people and small business owners? Apparently someone hasn't talked to the owners of Aromas Cafe, The Carving Board Cafe, Mesob, L'etoile, or the other restaurants who have been listed in the Top 10 Restaurants section for a while. I suppose if I talked to them and asked if I was disgracing their efforts they'd think I was crazy. And if Tomas can tell me how I'm making money off this site, I'd love to hear it. I certainly haven't seen a penny drop into my bank account as a result of this web site over its entire history.
And yes, I have decency. I make sure to wear shorts and a t-shirt everytime I walk by open windows. Keep in touch, Tomas!
It seems Tomas Rahal, owner of Mas Tapas Bar, DOES want to keep in touch. Here's his response to the e-mail I sent him Monday, June 19, 2006 at 01:56:13 PM
From: Tomas <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Sent: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:01:12 -0400
To: 'Fred Telegdy'
Subject: RE: Inappropriate Comments
dear fred, so nice to hear from you again. how did it feel to hear from one of your posts that it was all a lie? did you remove the lie from the site as you were told to? your insight into people is very limited fred. judging by the quality of your character so far it's understandable. after telling me that you have no idea of the content of the posts, you sudddenly have"insight" into why mas has an attitude problem? after assuring me that you have never even been to mas yourself, you are comfortable declaring that you know mas and its staff so well. i have never met or corresponded with someone so obviously in denial about their culpability. your cowardice and inability to face the music about your work, attitude and obvious overcompensation for all of the above with your site of lies and slander paint a sad picture. i asked you to right a wrong. the accuser you posted has made an attempt to do just that by demanding you remove his false claims. will you post his request for removal with an explanantion? instead of seeking to right a wrong you continue to paint this fiasco as some aspect of personality or "attitude" problem. are you ever wrong fred, can anyone find fault with your "attitude" fred or are you so happy wallowing in mediocrity and fantasy sports that you can't even entertain the thought you have been wrong and mislead people intentionally? i think a retraction is in order fred, front and center on your site so everyone can know the truth.
Tomas seems to avoid doing quite a bit of fact checking for someone who accuses others of not doing any fact checking. The fact is that the comment was removed from the Mas Tapas Bar listing at Charlottesville-Dining.com almost 6 hours previous to his latest e-mail after an IP address confirmation process between myself and the comment poster.
And once again, he still does not seem to comprehend anything I tell him. I never said I "have no idea of the content of the posts" to Mas Tapas Bar or any other restaurant. I read EVERY comment, and do an IP address cross-verification against other comments posted to the same restaurant, before approving ANY comment for the web site. I've told him this previously, but I suppose it doesn't fit into his rant very well.
As for the explanation from the person who asked for their comment to be removed from the Mas Tapas Bar listing, they said, with regards to the comment, "I now think that my comments were a overly harsh, since it is not even proven that my 'poisoning' resulted from eating at Mas." That's it. And, after an IP address verification process, the comment was removed from the Mas Tapas Bar listing and the person responded, "Thanks for your reply." Sounds like they were satisfied. I wonder why Tomas is not.
After reading this e-mail, it seemed that I was getting nowhere with Tomas, owner of Mas Tapas Bar, so I figured the best thing to do would be to just remove myself from the "conversation." I decided to use a tactic favored by an old friend of mine.
From: 'Fred Telegdy'
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 21:13:15 -0400
To: Tomas <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE
UNSUBSCRIBE
Apparently, the "Unsubscribe" didn't work as intended...
From: tomas rahal <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:02:22 -0400
To: 'Fred Telegdy'
Subject: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE
Dear mr. telebdgy, thank you for removing mas from your scandal rag. We never subscribed to it in the first place. As for your culpability I have never stated that you posted those comments. I have spoken with that person who out of shame or guilt, recanted his false assertions. You still continue to wash your hands of editorial responsibility when you print untrue and defamatory comments which have nothing to do with eating at mas tapas, personal comments any decent person would consider an affront. You find this all funny and laughable, which might be the source of all this acrimony. Nowhere in your most recent screed is an apology or retraction, or the copy you removed. You were asked to right a wrong and you 86'd everything rather than admit you were printing false allegations, even though you read them yourself and decided to print them. Where is the disclaimer that says "everything contained in these reviews is fictional or not. You decide. I don't know because I don't write them. I just print them." well done fred. What a man. Matt drudge would be proud.
"Scandal rag?" I love it! And now I'm being compared to Matt Drudge? Wow! I must admit that I've never been compared to someone who is so well-known. Well, except for that time a friend told me I looked like Mr. Bean, but that was different.
Since the "Unsubscribe" didn't work, I figured I'd reply to again try to clearly lay out my position regarding Charlottesville-Dining.com and the Mas Tapas Bar listing at my site.
From: 'Fred Telegdy'
Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:29:40 -0400
To: tomas rahal <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Subject: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE
Tomas,
Actually, I was trying to unsubscribe from your rant. Your restaurant listing, and the comments associated with it, remain on my web site.
The only thing I find funny and laughable are your rants because of your ludicrous position about me and my web site. It seems that you still fail to realize that Charlottesville-Dining.com is simply a way for people to publicly post comments and ratings about a restaurant. I personally have no agenda with the web site except to provide that forum. As with everything on the internet, identities are only as true as the people who create them and everybody I talk to seems to fully understand this, yet you don't.
You're right that there is no apology, nor retraction, because I don't feel either one is in order. The situation was handled between the person who posted the comment and myself and, to be quite honest, I feel that the handling of the situation is between that person and me. The situation is done and you seem to be the only one who wants to continue to complain about it.
As for printing false allegations, like any responsible source of information, the comment was removed immediately after IP address verification took place. You, who want to complain to me about fact checking, still failed to realize this in your e-mail last night even though the removal took place hours before you sent your e-mail.
You ask, "Where is the disclaimer that says 'everything contained in these reviews is fictional or not. You decide. I don't know because I don't write them. I just print them.'"
Well, to be specific, that would be the part in the disclaimer that says, "The votes and comments of our users do not reflect the thoughts, feelings, or experiences of Charlottesville-Dining.com or its management." Or, you could also glean that from the part that says, "Charlottesville-Dining.com is based on user feedback and information..."
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Fred.
_________________________
Fred Telegdy
Charlottesville-Dining
http://www.charlottesville-dining.com
Pretty straightforward, no?
Wow! Another e-mail from Tomas Rahal, owner of Mas Tapas Bar!
From: tomas rahal <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:52:29 -0400
To: 'Fred Telegdy'
Subject: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE
ANOTHER UPDATE: Dear fred, I'm glad you glean such joy at the disadvantage of honest, blue collar workers. Let's face it, this is the most exciting thing to happen at your website and I'm sure you get a good laugh reading through all the letters. The people not laughing are those affected by your actions. It is to their disadvantage when your semantic parsing of false and misleading becomes "The votes and comments of our users do not reflect the thoughts, feelings, or experiences of Charlottesville-Dining.com or its management." that's you, right? that's a neat way to say we read it, edit it, print it, but won't vouch for its veracity or the consequences a false claim of food poisoning can have, or the additional false claim that many others were affected too. I'm sure you want to forget all about this lie and "unsubscribe" and run and hide from your seedy ethics. Real peoples lives are at issue here, not your standing in the nerd world. Be a man, admit you made a mistake, that by the way, involved more than just you and a single poster. You don't feel an apology is in order, even though you read and printed a scurrilous lie. Have you no shame fred? You took up three days of our staff, the health department, our vendors and now this time with your posted lies, some of which still exist on your site. I am repeating my request to you to remove mas tapas from your "guide", good comments and bad. You just can't be trusted fred. Your homily about internet identities is yet another equivocation for your defamatory practices. Learn to play fair fred and more people might like you. This isn't fantasy sports smoothy.smooth. It's real w/real consequences. Why not have a poll with your readers? Should the claims made on this site be factual, therefore proveable, or fictional, like it is now? Let them decide since it's their content, right? And let restaurants decide whether they can have their names dragged in the mud for your benefit. Let the restaurants decide whether or not they would like to be associated with your website after they understand how it all works. It's only fair fred. I can only wonder how many other innocent people have suffered at your hands while you have a good chuckle.
Now I'm affecting honest, blue collar workers with my web site? The last I checked, the ratings and comments were specific to the restaurant and thus, were a result of the actions of the restaurant itself. So, if a restaurant, like Mas Tapas Bar, is responsible for their own actions and the ratings and comments are the result of user's dining experiences, doesn't that make the restaurant, in this case Mas Tapas Bar, responsible for the results of the opinions of their patrons? Seems likely to me.
And I have to say that I absolutely LOVED the "nerd world" comment. I suppose Tomas doesn't realize that the terms "geek" and "nerd" aren't offensive anymore, like they used to be. It's funny that he has now said that I "fancy myself a web designer," yet now indicates that I have some level of "standing in the nerd world." Classic.
Here's my response.
From: 'Fred Telegdy'
Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:15:00 -0400
To: tomas rahal <tomasr@mastapas.com>
Subject: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE
Tomas,
Let me try a different way of explaining this. First, a customer visits your restaurant and engages in a dining experience. Then, if the customer had a sufficiently good or bad experience and wants to let others know about their experience, they may search out a site like mine. Once at the site, they will post their ratings and/or comments as to their dining experience. Does this clear things up?
Just like word-of-mouth and other forms of people relaying their experiences to one another, the process begins with your restaurant, not my web site. I fully admit that someone may choose, or not choose as the case may be, your restaurant based on the Mas Tapas Bar listing at my site, just as they could/would with word-of-mouth and other forms of relaying opinions, but the dining experience at your restaurant is what consitutes the comments. THAT is what the feedback is based upon. So, if you're getting negative feedback, maybe you're just not doing things to the satisfaction of your customers. Maybe.
Which brings me to being "honest, blue collar workers." For that, I congratulate you. However, as a very wise person once said to me, "Try is not do." You can be an honest, blue collar worker all you want, but that doesn't mean you're doing things the right way, nor does it mean you're satisfying your customers to the level the expect. I honestly don't know either way, for obvious reasons, but if that is the case, then your restaurant would be subject to negative comments on my site, just as it would be with word-of-mouth and other forms of opinion expression. Are you doing your due diligence and tracking down anybody who has ever said anything bad about your restaurant to anyone else, or are you just attacking me because I'm and easy and obvious target for you and because you realize people might actually be using my site? I suspect it's the latter.
As for the food poisoning comment, I'm not even going to get into it anymore. I've already fully explained the situation. If you can't understand it at this point, then I truly am at a loss of how to make it any more clear. I suppose we could agree to disagree?
To the point of this being real life and not fantasy sports or SmoothySmooth, I appreciate your visiting my other web sites. If you don't understand their purpose, then I really don't care to explain them to you. And if you think it's some sort of attack on me to say that they're not real life, then you'll need to work a lot harder.
As for a poll to my readers about the content on my site, I don't feel one is necessary. The fact that I receive 5-10 restaurant comments a day and the number of visitors that I do for such a highly focused web site (a specific service industry in a specific city) lets me know that my users are fine with the site exactly how it is. I can also say that I have NEVER, yes NEVER, received any e-mail complaining of the nature of the content on my web site from anyone other than you. You seem to be stuck on everything being my problem, but have you stopped to consider the idea that maybe you just don't "get it" and that others do? That maybe you're in the minority of users? I'm sure others don't like my web site and I'm sure they don't use it. Fine. I don't make a single penny off the web site, so it's really not a big deal to me in that regards. As long as a sufficient number of people find the web site useful, as can easily be determined by things such as number of visitors and percentage of repeat visitors, I'll maintain the web site. And I can say now that if you're hoping for my web site to go away, those key statistics for me just keep increasing over time, so you might be a bit disappointed.
Lastly, I have followed your request and removed Mas Tapas Bar from my web site. It should be noted that this is the first time you have ever asked for that and, as a responsible web site should do, I am honoring that request.
I don't get a chuckle out of anything regarding Charlottesville-Dining.com except your e-mails and I find it even more funny that throughout this long rant you haven't realized that. My work in Charlottesville-Dining.com is done both as a hobby and to provide what I feel, and clearly others feel, is useful information.
I can think of only one other instance where a restaurant "suffered at my hands" through my web site and, after contact was made with me, the situation was promplty rectified to their complete satisfaction.
Again, you seem to be the only one with the problem in all of this. You presume to know what others think and make wild statements regarding such things and yet you don't have any facts; the very thing that you accuse me of. So, again, get your own facts straight and then maybe you would begin to understand things.
Happily in the Nerd World,
Fred.
_________________________
Fred Telegdy
Charlottesville-Dining
http://www.charlottesville-dining.com
As I said in the e-mail, Mas Tapas Bar no longer exists as a listing in Charlottesville-Dining.com. I am true to my word and removed the Mas Tapas Bar listing immediately after sending the e-mail. But something tells me that through this web page, Mas Tapas Bar will never truly disappear from this site...
Barbara Nordin wrote about the Mas Tapas Bar exchange in her column, The Fearless Consumer, in The Hook.
Waldo Jaquith added the Fearless Consumer story to cvillenews.com
Dave McNair wrote about the Mas Tapas Bar exchange in his column, The Dish, in The Hook.
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